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Leading Off:

FL-18: The situation in Florida's 18th Congressional District grew murkier over the weekend, after St. Lucie County decided to engage, sua sponte, in a "partial" recount of early ballots (the final three days' worth). Bizarrely, Democrat Patrick Murphy saw his vote totals drop by 667 votes while GOP Rep. Allen West's also fell, by 132. That gave West a net gain of 535 votes but still left Murphy up by 0.58 percent—just outside the half-percent margin which would trigger a formal recount. Of course, West is now demanding a full recount of all early votes, so we'll soon see where that heads.

Earlier, on Friday, West's request for an injunction to impound voting machines and ballots in Palm Beach County was denied by the judge hearing the case. West has a similar action pending in St. Lucie County, and I imagine this weekend's recount issues will come up when the matter is heard on Tuesday.


IA-Sen: Just days after his nine-point victory over Christie Vilsack, GOP Rep. Steve King is refusing to rule out a run against Dem Sen. Tom Harkin in 2014. Over his long career, Harkin has always seemed like an attractive target for Republicans. But after first unseating Sen. Roger Jepsen in 1984, Harkin then dispatched three congressmen in a row: Tom Tauke (1990), Jim Lightfoot (1996), and Greg Ganske (2002). That left Republicans with Some Dude Christopher Reed in 2008, who helped Harkin achieve his highest-ever vote total (63 percent).

That's not say Harkin won't be vulnerable in 2014. To the contrary: I expect the GOP to try hard for this seat. But King would probably be our best opponent: He's a stone-cold lunatic, and the rest of Iowa is much more moderate than his district. What's more, he can almost certainly out-crazy anyone else who might dare enter the primary field. On the flipside, he can probably raise a lot of money, but I think Harkin would have a field day with King and would probably prefer him to some anodyne establishment type. (And before anyone can say "be careful what you wish for," I'll just point out that for the last two cycles, Republicans have done us huge favors by nominating their most insane standard-bearers. MourdockAkinAngleO'Donnell anyone?)


CT-Gov: If you've followed PPP's polling, you know that Dem Gov. Dan Malloy, first elected in 2010, has seen some pretty rough approval numbers. That's probably due to Connecticut's difficult fiscal situation and some tough choices Malloy has pushed for, including a tax increase. But lately, Malloy's numbers have turned around, and PPP's final CT poll saw him surge from -19 to +12! Such a big shift always raises eyebrows, but that survey actually found smaller margins for Barack Obama and Chris Murphy than they actually saw on election day.

Something else happened on election day as well, though: Democrats maintained their margins in both houses of the state legislature, even though Republicans made a big push (centered around attacks over Malloy's tax hike). Malloy is spinning this as vindication for his efforts, which he says were necessary due to years of mismanagement by GOP governors. Republican pushback is amusing, with leaders noting that this was "the first presidential election year since 1992 in which the GOP did not lose legislative seats." In other words: "Hooray! We've hit rock bottom!" Malloy will likely still have a tough re-election fight on his hands, and there's always the "you never know what things will look like two years from now" mantra. But this is a good start.

• WA-Gov: Fantastic! With the writing on the wall quite clear, Republican Rob McKenna has conceded the governor's race to Democrat Jay Inslee, with Inslee leading on Friday night by about a 51-49 margin. It's a remarkable cycle on the gubernatorial front for Dems and the DGA generally: They hung on to several tough seats this year (particularly in Montana) and lost only in North Carolina. And this hold in Washington preserves Team Blue's streak at an amazing eight straight victories in the Evergreen State. Nice work!


Overtime: Not including the crazy FL-18 (see above), here's where we stand in the other five House races that are still uncalled. The number indicates the leader's edge over his or her opponent:

AZ-02: Rep. Ron Barber (D): +289
AZ-09: Kyrsten Sinema (D): +5,789
CA-07: Ami Bera (D): +1,779 (next update Tuesday, 6 PM ET)
CA-52: Scott Peters (D): +1,334 (next update Monday, 8 PM ET)
NC-07: Rep. Mike McIntyre (D): +420

In AZ-02, we don't know the exact number of ballots remaining (or where they hail from), so it’s difficult to say what lies in store for Barber, who has alternately trailed and led Martha McSally. In AZ-09, Maricopa County (which contains the entire district) reports that it has approximately 322,000 ballots left to count. AZ-09 makes up 19 percent of the county by raw population (but likely a greater proportion of its voter base). Even assuming there are 75,000 ballots left as between Sinema and Parker (a very generous assumption since the Libertarian is getting 6 percent), Vernon Parker needs 54 percent of the remaining vote (his "magic number") in order to win. That's 5% higher than his current 48.5 percent of the two-party haul.

Meanwhile, in California, we do have a better sense of things: In the 7th, we know that Dan Lungren's magic number is 51.4 percent, but he's only gotten 49.6 percent so far. Similarly, in the 52nd, Brian Bilbray's magic number is 50.8, versus the 49.7 he's taken to date. That's good news for both Bera and Peters, though there are still lots of ballots left to count, and indeed, Sacramento County (where the 7th is based) says it might not finish until early December!

Finally, in North Carolina, as we've mentioned, the contest may go to a recount. The formal county canvass is scheduled to be completed on Nov. 16 and if the margin remains less than 1% (as it appears it will), then the trailing candidate has the right to seek a recount. That request must be made in writing by 5 PM the following day, so we'll know by next weekend whether David Rouzer (who will probably still be behind by then) decides to ask for a recount.

CA-15: Another very interesting tidbit from Greg Giroux: Rep. Pete Stark, who was just defeated by fellow Democrat Eric Swalwell, was the third longest-serving member of the House to be unseated by a member of his own party. The longest was New York City Democrat Manny Celler, who lost to Liz Holtzman in 1972 after an amazing twenty-five terms in office. Second was Massachusetts Republican Joseph W. Martin, who served 21 terms before being defeated by Margaret Heckler in 1966. Stark winds up just behind Martin with 20 terms, though the other two men both lost in primaries while Stark lost in a general election, thanks to California's new top-two primary system.

CA-36: Fantastic news! GOP Rep. Mary Bono Mack has conceded to Democrat Raul Ruiz. The most recent updated vote count (as of Friday evening) put Ruiz ahead by a dominant 7,000 votes, which MBM had no hope of making up. Congratulations to Congressman-elect Raul Ruiz—an amazing win!

GA-10: So hilarious!

Charles Darwin, the 19th-century naturalist who laid the foundations for evolutionary theory, received nearly 4,000 write-in votes in Athens-Clarke County in balloting for the 10th Congressional District seat retained Tuesday by five-year incumbent Republican Rep. Paul Broun.

A spot check Thursday of some of the other counties in the east Georgia congressional district revealed a smattering of votes for Darwin, although it wasn't always clear, based on information provided by elections offices in those counties, whether those votes were cast in the 10th District race. And because the long-dead Darwin was not a properly certified write-in candidate, some counties won't be tallying votes for him, whether in the congressional race or other contests.

A campaign asking voters to write-in Darwin's name in the 10th Congressional District, which includes half of Athens-Clarke County, began after Broun, speaking at a sportsmen's banquet at a Hartwell church, called evolution and other areas of science "lies straight from the pit of hell."

Not bad for a guy who died 130 years ago—and who isn't even American! (Broun, by the way, was otherwise unopposed for re-election in this dark-red district.)

HI-02: It's almost too bad Virgil Goode isn't around anymore, since I'm sure we'd all enjoy another one of his meltdowns: Democrat Tulsi Gabbard, just elected to the open seat in Hawaii's 2nd Congressional District, will become the first Hindu member of the House and will apparently take her oath of office on the Bhagavad Gita. (I know I'll never forget Goode flipping out when Minnesota Rep. Keith Ellison was sworn in over a Koran owned by Thomas Jefferson back in 2007.)

IL-13: Democrat David Gill, whose race was called by the AP on election night, conceded to Republican Rodney Davis on Friday:

My exhausted campaign team has just completed a county by county analysis of outstanding provisional and absentee ballots in the 13th Congressional District, as well as some precinct based anomalies in ballot returns and turnout.

The closeness of this race (less than 1/2 percentage point) demanded that we diligently check the numbers. I am very grateful for the dedicated work of my campaign staff to go through this data in the last few days, and for the cooperation of election officials in each of the 14 counties.

It has become clear to me, based on the numbers I've seen, that there are simply not enough uncounted ballots remaining to wipe out the current 1,287 vote deficit I face in this election.

MI-01: Democrat Gary McDowell conceded his race to GOP Rep. Dan Benishek on Friday, losing by a heart-breakingly close 0.6 percent. Though the race had been called earlier in the week, McDowell held off on conceding because he was concerned there was a discrepancy with the AP's numbers. In his Friday statement, though, McDowell acknowledged that "new results are unlikely to change the outcome of the race in any significant way."

NY-24: Even Hiroo Onodo came down from the mountains eventually: GOP Rep. Ann Marie Buerkle conceded to Democrat Dan Maffei on Friday afternoon, when she was trailing by over 14,500 votes. According to the Syracuse Post-Standard: "Buerkle said earlier she wanted all the votes to be counted before she would concede. But today she said she didn't want it to overshadow Veteran's Day."

WA-01: Despite trailing by almost seven percent, Republican John Koster waited until Thursday night to concede to Democrat Suzan DelBene. Washington, as you know, counts ballots very slowly, and at last glance, under three quarters had actually been tallied. But there was never any reason for Koster to have hope, which is why he's finally given up. He also took a potshot at the GOP establishment in an email to supporters, saying: "Sadly, and for reasons untold, neither the National Republican Congressional Committee nor the Washington State Republican Party stepped up to provide us with anything more than token support." That should help ensure Koster will never run again.

Other Races:

NY-St. Sen: I think this story actually says more about Dem Gov. Andrew Cuomo's presidential chances than it does about the New York state Senate, but in any event, Cuomo is refusing to take sides over the Senate leadership dispute that's sure to arise after Tuesday's surprise election results. As I explained the other day, Democrats may have won enough seats to claim the majority, nominally controlling 33 seats to the GOP's 30. But there are five wayward Dems (four members of the so-called "Independent Democratic Conference," or IDC, plus one inscrutable Simcha Felder), any or all of whom might cut a deal with Republicans.

Cuomo, a Democrat who apparently loathes the Democratic Party, has made no secret in the past of his preference for a Republican Senate—he's buddy-buddy with the GOP majority leader, Dean Skelos, and his fiscal instincts align with theirs. Hell, Cuomo even endorsed two Republican senators up for re-election. So just think about it: A Democratic governor refusing to say that he wants Democrats (who do, after all, have a majority, even if on paper only) to control the state legislature? That's really a hell of a thing. When it comes time to proving your partisan bona fides in a presidential primary, this kind of abstention looks like a serious black mark.

TX-?? George P. Bush, son of former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and nephew of Dubya, has filed paperwork for a campaign committee in Texas. It's not known what office he might seek, but AG or Land Commissioner are rumored possibilities. (The attorney general's job will be open in 2014 if Greg Abbott makes a run for governor.) One thing I'd forgotten (that the New Republic's Eliza Gray reminds me of) is that George P., who speaks Spanish and whose mother is Mexican, was once dubbed the GOP's Ricky Martin—probably not something he'd like to be reminded of. Also: Don't confuse George P. with Jeb's other son, Jeb Bush, Jr. (aka JBJ), who has already been talked about as a possible 2014 challenger to Rep.-elect Joe Garcia in FL-26.

Grab Bag:

VRA: As expected, the Supreme Court agreed to hear a case, Shelby County v. Holder, which could overturn Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act. (Section 5 requires certain jurisdictions with a history of discrimination to seek "preclearance" of changes to voting procedures with the Department of Justice, to ensure they do not harm minorities.) Rick Hasen has more, and it sounds like he thinks the prognosis is grim for Section 5.

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  •  Chait on Obama's victory (19+ / 0-)
    Obama won for myriad reasons, important and petty. But his reelection was hardly small and hardly devoid of ideas. Indeed, it was entirely about a single idea. The campaign, from beginning to end, was an extended argument about economic class.
  •  How do both candidates votes drop? That (2+ / 0-)
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    seems weird.  If one loses votes, it seems like the other would gain.

  •  Paul Broun (20+ / 0-)

    Let this be a lesson that we need to run a Democrat in all 435 districts and every Senate seat no matter how red they may be.  Obviously they can't all run highly funded races but we need to have someway so that Democrats and others who oppose such flat earth nonsense have a way to formally make that opposition known.

    Broun's district may be very red but it also includes Athens the home to the University of Georgia which should be able to give some base to sane people in GA-10.

    No Republican should run unopposed in 2014.  

    “I believe all Southern liberals come from the same starting point--race. Once you figure out they are lying to you about race, you start to question everything.” ― Molly Ivins

    by RoIn on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 05:39:01 AM PST

    •  As a suffering soul of his district, amen to that! (6+ / 0-)

      The loudest cries for war come from those who have never seen one.

      by MadGeorgiaDem on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 05:42:18 AM PST

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      •  Michael Stipe in 2014? (4+ / 0-)

        Hey, R.E.M. isn't doing anything anymore, why not?  I'm not saying he could win but a challenge by him could give a morale boost to decent people who have Paul Broun as thier "representative."

        Let no Republican be left unchallenged in 2014.  Make them compete for every vote.

        “I believe all Southern liberals come from the same starting point--race. Once you figure out they are lying to you about race, you start to question everything.” ― Molly Ivins

        by RoIn on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 05:46:20 AM PST

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        •  I don't think he's lived there for years, has he? (1+ / 0-)
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          Show us your tax returns !!!!!!

          by Bush Bites on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 06:02:59 AM PST

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          •  I Think He Still Does (1+ / 0-)
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            I could be wrong though.  I know that Peter Buck lives in Seattle but it was my understanding that both Michael Stipe and Mike Mills still live in Athens and have been involved in a lot of historic preservation projects.  I also think that Bill Berry lives nearby.

            As I say I may be wrong in all that.

            “I believe all Southern liberals come from the same starting point--race. Once you figure out they are lying to you about race, you start to question everything.” ― Molly Ivins

            by RoIn on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 06:26:31 AM PST

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            •  Part Time (1+ / 0-)
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              I think he still owns property in Athens and spends some time there, but considers NYC home.

              A liberal knows that the only certainty in this life is change but believes that the change can be directed toward a constructive end.--Henry Wallace

              by 54cermak on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 07:02:09 AM PST

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        •  maybe also (1+ / 0-)
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          the lead singer of the B52s? blanking out on his name but they're from Athens too.

          Living in Kyoto-06 (Japan), voting in RI-01, went to college in IL-01.

          by sapelcovits on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 06:34:44 AM PST

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    •  And no Democratic version of Alan Keyes either (4+ / 0-)
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      I still cannot understand why in 2004 the Illinois Republican Party felt the need to import Alan Keyes from Maryland to run against Barack Obama for the U.S. Senate, after their original candidate went down by a sex scandal.  In all of Illinois, they couldn't find a state legislator or county commissioner to be the sacrificial lamb, especially in Republican areas down state?  Besides, if you're in business for yourself, you're a doctor or lawyer or run a small business, it's great advertising, even when you lose.  So in 2014 the Democrats need to contest every seat, with candidates who live and work where the voters are.

      "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals, now we know that it is bad economics." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jan. 20, 1937

      by Navy Vet Terp on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 06:09:12 AM PST

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      •  Agreed -- and if you're going to import ... (0+ / 0-)

        ... a candidate (bad enough), you can't go out and get anyone better than Alan Keyes!?!?  He is nothing short of a grifter -- runs for President to line his own pockets, and is a lunatic to boot.  And the GOP in Illinois went out of its way to bring him in?  No one was going to beat Barack Obama in 2004 for that Senate race, but you or I could have probably kept it closer than Alan Keyes did.

      •  Exactly! (4+ / 0-)

        In my district, Ohio-14, the only Democrat to run in the primary to go up against Steve Latourette was an account named Dale Blanchard, whom my fairly extensive research found had, other than running for Congress TEN times, not a single other trace of civic involvement, and whose mega-amateurish website used to include a section where he disavowed and condemned, all Biblically, pretty much the entire Democratic social agenda (though much if it has now been scrubbed from his site, probably after he realized he had a slightly better chance of being elected than falling into an open manhole- I've still got a copy). Now Latourette may not have been beatable, but this is a district where McCain only beat Obama in '08 by .03%, and we didn't run real Democrat, as if they idea of coattails didn't exist! Of course, over the summer Latourette announced he was retiring, probably partially because he knew he'd be able to name his replacement, and Democrats were caught flat footed in what should have instantly become a very competitive race. Instead we'll be running against an incumbent in '14. It's a shame.

    •  Contest every race (5+ / 0-)

      We need to run a Democrat in all races, not just 435 congressional districts. We need some name in all state legislature races, state offices, county supervisors, mayors, city council, school boards and other minor districts.

      Many will not be competitive and be "lost" causes in and of themselves. But an empty line on the ballot sends a bad message.

      There will be successful surprises that will pay off and certain races will become worth throwing resources at. State Secretary of State should be an emphasis in all states - they are the ones who manage the election process.

      Getting old ain't for sissies.

      by flatlander30 on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 06:44:28 AM PST

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    •  The ONLY way the media can be lured to be ... (2+ / 0-)
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      ... "fair and balanced" in solidly Red districts is to run an opponent against even the Congressional shoe-ins. Then SOMEone in the media SOMEwhere will pick the story up. It's an investment worth some DNC campaign money in every seemingly non-competitive race.

      Remember the Akin!
      In war and in competitive marketing, you enter the other guy's protected home turf ... to draw him out, offer him opportunities to make unforced errors and make him spend energy and money to defend himself.

      FORWARD to 2014: Win back the House. Build up the Senate.

      by TRPChicago on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 06:44:57 AM PST

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      •  Remember the Akin! (3+ / 0-)

        Indeed. I'm still mortified that Missouri voters pulled the lever for this Neanderthal more than 1 million times. OTOH, our white male Dem. Governor Nixon received more votes than Romney, who clobbered the Prez in this apparently racist state.

        •  yup all racism (0+ / 0-)

          nothing to do with Nixon being a moderate and Obama not being one

          19, CA-18 (home), CA-13 (school)

          Socially libertarian, moderate on foreign policy, immigration, and crime, liberal on everything else.
          UC Berkeley; I think I'm in the conservative half of this city. -.5.38, -3.23

          by jncca on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 01:34:20 PM PST

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  •  Didn't anyone learn from 2000 in FL? (8+ / 0-)

    Recount all the votes if you want to recount any of them.

  •  Let's Hope (7+ / 0-)

    that the Dems don't go into a shell a la 2009-2010.  Now is the time to start aiming for the mid-terms.  They can't leave the field open to whatever version of the teabaggers the Republicans gin up this time.

    There's no cure for stupid, and won't be if you keep cutting the funding for the research.

    by Ref on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 05:46:26 AM PST

  •  WTF is a "Partial Recount" anyway???? (3+ / 0-)
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    Let's see...we'll recount these ballots here, but not those ballots over there.  What is it about holding an election that Floridians can't comprehend?

    Oregon:'s cold. But it's a damp cold.

    by Keith930 on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 05:50:05 AM PST

  •  Teabaggers have a HUGE investment in thuggery (1+ / 0-)
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    I laugh when they call union reps "thugs" because nobody wants to push the system around, while hearing voices in their heads telling them they are truly the Righteous Ones".

    Sorts funny that all the stunts used to steal the election in 2000 were CLEARLY expected to steal this election and failed miserably.

    So they really just want to thug their way through it.

    I, honestly, belive in a bit of thuggery with regards to the marijuana reform issue: mainly because we're totally correct in pushing this forward and there is no salient, rational argument for keeping it illegal: just horseshit and politics, but I repeat myself.

    The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

    by xxdr zombiexx on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 05:51:26 AM PST

  •  Can we get our own Brooks Brothers Riot going? (2+ / 0-)
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    Show us your tax returns !!!!!!

    by Bush Bites on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 05:54:46 AM PST

    •  More. (3+ / 0-)
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      The Brooks Brothers riot is the term coined to describe the demonstration at a meeting of election canvassers in Miami-Dade County, Florida on November 19, 2000, during a recount of votes made during the 2000 United States presidential election. The name refers to a traditional brand of suits associated with conservative business dress, reinforcing the allegation that the corporately attired protesters sporting "Hermès ties"[1] were astroturfing, which is to say that they were not, in fact, just ordinary local citizens expressing their concerns about counting practices. Hundreds of "paid GOP crusaders" descended upon South Florida to protest the state's recounts,[2] with at least half a dozen of the demonstrators at Miami-Dade paid by George W. Bush's recount committee.[3] Several of these protesters were identified as Republican staffers and a number later went on to jobs in the Bush administration.[4]

      The demonstration was organized by Republican operatives, sometimes referred to as the "Brooks Brothers Brigade",[5] to oppose the recount of 10,750 ballots during the Florida recount. The canvassers decided to move the counting process to a smaller room and restrict media access to 25 feet away while they continued. At this time, New York Rep. John Sweeney told an aide to "Shut it down."[3][1] The demonstration turned violent, and according to the NY Times, "several people were trampled, punched or kicked when protesters tried to rush the doors outside the office of the Miami-Dade supervisor of elections. Sheriff's deputies restored order." DNC aide Luis Rosero was kicked and punched. Within two hours after the riot died down, the canvassing board unanimously voted to shut down the count, in part due to perceptions that the process wasn't open or fair, and in part because the court-mandated deadline was impossible to meet.[6][7][8]

      Show us your tax returns !!!!!!

      by Bush Bites on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 06:01:20 AM PST

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  •  So long... (6+ / 0-)

    An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. - Will Rogers

    by DavidW on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 05:55:55 AM PST

    •  Make that TWO nuts! (2+ / 0-)
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      "Sadly, and for reasons untold, neither the National Republican Congressional Committee nor the Washington State Republican Party stepped up to provide us with anything more than token support."
      Gee, Koster, you don't think it had anything to do with "the rape thing", do ya? I mean, it's "so, so rare" that the GOP doesn't support people who make insanely stupid comments like that in public.

      "If you're going to go down with the ship, make it a submarine." - Wayne Shorter

      by Oliver Tiger on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 07:28:07 AM PST

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  •  Ah Florida our National Joke (2+ / 0-)
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  •  Cuomo (12+ / 0-)

    sold us up the river to the Republicans in redistricting, and Dems are still livid about this. He is also pretty anti union, in some instances, maybe to the right of Scott Walker! He isn't shy about his virtual love affair with Republican senate leader Dean Skelos. It's almost sickening to see them together. If he really is thinking of a presidential bid, he will have an easier time with Republicans than Dems right now. He's made a lot of enemies in his own party. Personally, I don't think he stands a chance at the nomination if he continues along this path. Anyone notice how he didn't speak at the convention this year? Notice how, after Sandy, President Obama spent time with Chris Christie, spoke to Mayor Bloomberg, and will visit New York with Bloomberg. But where is Cuomo? If the Dems were happy with him, I would think that they would have given one of their "rising stars" some air time. Mario he ain't.

    •  Which makes him "perfect" for 2016 (1+ / 0-)
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      He can't be attacked for loving labor and public employees because he's already bashed public unions, ordering one layoff in 2010 -- which I, unfortunately, was part of. (FULL DISCLOSURE: I got a gig with another agency, but I was both happy and well-used in my previous position, and was livid when the axe dropped one month after I'd been promoted.) Unlike Mittens, who did not work and play well with Democrats, Prince Andrew and Leader Skelator get along like a house afire, and I expect Cuomo to keep this going when it comes to "policing" the ridiculousness that's been happening in our Assembly. The only way I vote for Andy Cuomo is if he's up against Paul Ryan, Rand Paul, or Rick Santorum!

      "If you're going to go down with the ship, make it a submarine." - Wayne Shorter

      by Oliver Tiger on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 07:25:39 AM PST

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    •  I hope to hell he doesn't have a chance n/t (3+ / 0-)
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    •  I see what you mean about unions (1+ / 0-)
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      I just googled "Cuomo unions" and it's pretty bad. I won't say he's to the right of my governor (I didn't see the article where he threatened to call out the National Guard), but his attitude towards unions is bad enough to be disqualifying in its own right.

      As for the whole redistricting affair, we really can't afford to nominate someone so sanctimoniously bipartisan that they could oppose our candidates downticket. It would have been one thing for him to insist on a court-drawn map, but he signed a GOP gerrymander. That's an ominous sign for what his relationship with any GOP leaders in Congress would be like.

      Male, 22, -4.75/-6.92, born and raised TN-05, now WI-02. "You're damn right we're making a difference!" - Senator-Elect Tammy Baldwin (D-Madison)

      by fearlessfred14 on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 09:33:00 AM PST

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      •  It's not that bad (0+ / 0-)

        Cuomo's a deal maker.  He schmoozes, he makes promises, and he carries them out.  He promised to support the re-election of any Republican who voted in favor of gay marriage -- a move that was necessary because the Conservative Party promised to primary any Republican who voted in favor.  So when he got four of 'em to vote in favor (a huge accomplishment that took some incredible political dealing in and of itself), he had to keep his word.

        On unions, I don't know how anti- he really is.  What he is is practical, and practically speaking there was no way for New York to sustain the level of pension funding and employment that we had been sustaining.  None.  No way, no how.

        The unions tried to call his bluff by refusing to negotiate what could have been better terms... but it turned out he wasn't bluffing.

        All this is no excuse for wanting the Republicans to retain power in the Senate, but I hardly think it rises to the level of traitor-to-the-cause or DINO.

  •  The Florida Way: partial vote recount, then STOP. (4+ / 0-)
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    "Partial" in every sense of the word.

    Amazing how effectively you can jigger election results that way!

    FORWARD to 2014: Win back the House. Build up the Senate.

    by TRPChicago on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 06:33:53 AM PST

  •  So if there are five house seats left to be (1+ / 0-)
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    decided, what is the current total for each party?  Are we going to hit 200?

    The electoral college was my safety school.

    by Fiddler On A Hot Tin Roof on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 06:40:27 AM PST

  •  NC-7: McIntyre (D !) ran racist ads. F(orget) him (2+ / 0-)
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    Sylv, PALiberal1

    As hard as it must be to get to the right of the extremist wingnut David Rouzer on anything, McIntyre gave it a great shot.

    He ran ads making it absolutely clear he doesn't much care for the Latino immigrants in his district. The tone was even worse than the substance.

    I don't know how many Rove, Koch, Norquist and Romney slimeball attack ads we endured here, but nothing I saw was as disgusting as McIntyre's.

    I'm all for "More and Better Democrats", but this is a bit much for me. This seat doesn't matter much nationally at this time. Hopefully McIntyre will lose and a better Democrat can take Rouzer out in 2 years.


  •  West-Murphy recount: WTF? (1+ / 0-)
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    A net shift of 535 votes from a partial early-ballot recount is HUGE.  Something's not right here.  Plus, how could both candidates see their tallies DROP?

    Don't get me wrong--I think it's still pretty clear that Murphy won, but this just isn't making sense to me.  Plus, shouldn't a recount of (usually Dem-leaning) early ballots in (Dem-leaning) St. Lucie County benefited Murphy more than West?

  •  if a candidate (1+ / 0-)
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    calls for a recount outside the trigger number then that person is responsible for all funds on both sides to carry out the recount.

  •  andrew cuomo i understand (1+ / 0-)
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    is positioning himself for a run in 2016, i admired and supported mario but in andrews case the apple fell very far away from the tree, and in dem speak that might be a non starter for 2016, it sure is for me.

  •  Florida is a disgrace. 12 years since Gore/Bush (0+ / 0-)

    and they still haven't gotten their act together. It's one thing if Rick Scott is actively doing voter suppression by preventing early voting, but counting votes accurately should not be an issue more than a decade after the 2000 debacle. Who the heck is responsible for this crap?

    And I don't dislike Andrew Cuomo - I know some of his support for Republican legislature candidates in NY has been due to them supporting his same-sex initiative last year. But other than that, he's ok, nothing spectacular. There are much better candidates for President in 2016.

  •  Cuomo - doubt it has any effect in future run (0+ / 0-)

    Maybe for some party activists who gravitate to another preferred candidate, but I doubt if Cuomo's statements have much negative effect.  Could be a net positive for him - he could package it as someone who can reach out to and work with the other party.  That appeals to many voters in all 3 camps - Dems, GOP and independents/ no party registered.  What he actually accomplishes as Gov of NY will count for far more than this inside-baseball stuff.

  •  Harder to disagree with West re: full recount (0+ / 0-)

    I would be thrilled to see West gone and Murphy in, but given how close the race is and given the unexpected partial recount, on the county's own (not required or judicially ordered), leading to less ballots for both candidates, West's demands for a full recount seem reasonable.

  •  Koster too conservative for Western Washington (0+ / 0-)

    A pro-choice social moderate/fiscal conservative like Bill Driscoll that lost in WA 6 could probably win in WA 1 but Koster is just too extreme for the western side of the state.

    Rs just don't have a deep bench in Washington so Koster may try again but he won't get much help from party regulars.

  •  "It's almost too bad Virgil Goode isn't around any (0+ / 0-)


    Actually, he is.  He was on the ballot in Virginia, running for President on the Constitution Party ticket.

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