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  •  I did not include Newaygo County (0+ / 0-)

    and in its place added Lake, Mason and Mastinee Counties. Came out to 60/38 Obama, 50/50 in the 2010 numbers. My Grand Rapid area seat is 63/35 Obama and 51/49 GOP in the 2010 numbers. I would say my map is more of a Dem gerrymander hiding in the guise of a fair map. My Lansing area would not likely be in a commission map though.

    "So there's a time for silence, and there's a time for waiting your turn. But if you know how you feel, and you so clearly know what you need to say, you'll know it. I don't think you should wait. I think you should speak now." -Taylor Swift

    by SouthernINDem on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 02:47:50 PM PST

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    •  You mind posting the map? (0+ / 0-)

      I'm curious.

      Also, DRA doesn't have 2010 numbers for Michigan. The Dem and Rep averages are an average of Gov, SoS, and AG for 2006, although it comes out to a 5 point Republican statewide win (which is a really pessimistic scenario) since Republicans won SoS and AG big.

      •  Sorry about that (1+ / 0-)
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        I meant to put 2006, but I had 2010 in my head. Here is SE Michigan. I probably violated sections of the Michigan Constitution, but here it is for SE Michigan:
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        "So there's a time for silence, and there's a time for waiting your turn. But if you know how you feel, and you so clearly know what you need to say, you'll know it. I don't think you should wait. I think you should speak now." -Taylor Swift

        by SouthernINDem on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 04:44:02 PM PST

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      •  And a better Detroit Metro (1+ / 0-)
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        "So there's a time for silence, and there's a time for waiting your turn. But if you know how you feel, and you so clearly know what you need to say, you'll know it. I don't think you should wait. I think you should speak now." -Taylor Swift

        by SouthernINDem on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 04:47:07 PM PST

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        •  The map is good for a D gerrymander (0+ / 0-)

          But a commission wouldn't split Ann Arbor, nor Ingham County. Michigan legislative maps almost always follow county and municipality lines, and I think that there may be a statute preventing excessive county or city splits, which would make the South-East Michigan portion of your map pretty questionable. However, it is still possible to make a decent D-gerrymander without excessively splitting municipalities.

          •  The real area for gains under a commission (1+ / 0-)
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            is in Oakland and Macomb Counties. A fair map could net us 3 seats.

            "So there's a time for silence, and there's a time for waiting your turn. But if you know how you feel, and you so clearly know what you need to say, you'll know it. I don't think you should wait. I think you should speak now." -Taylor Swift

            by SouthernINDem on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 06:38:40 PM PST

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